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This is an interactive Bulletin Board on the topics of Sign making, design, fabrication, History, old Books and of coarse Letterheads, Keepers of the craft. The Hand Lettering Forum features links to resources, sign art history, techniques, and artists profiles. Learn more about Letterheads at https://theletterheads.com. Below you'll see Mchat has been added as a live communication portal for trial, and the Main forum Links are listed below.

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We hope to keep this site simple and uncluttered, but a few notices are necessary.

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Interesting sites

Last post by Raymond Chapman « Wed Sep 29, 2004 5:24 pm
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by Danny Baronian » Mon Sep 27, 2004 1:08 am

Ok, here's an easy way to make a post: share an interesting or favorite web site.

A friend passed this one on, is only an hour and a half away and...

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Last post by Raymond Chapman
Wed Sep 29, 2004 5:24 pm
Atkinson Book. Source for endless posts

Last post by Jill Marie Welsh « Mon Sep 27, 2004 9:06 am
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by Mike Jackson » Sun Sep 26, 2004 8:02 pm

Hi Letterers,
Most of us probably own Frank Atkinson's book on sign painting--either an original or the ST reprint. The average person probably knows...

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Last post by Jill Marie Welsh
Mon Sep 27, 2004 9:06 am
Yearly Rant

Last post by Mike Jackson « Sun Sep 26, 2004 11:28 pm
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by Mike Jackson » Sat Sep 25, 2004 11:38 am

Normally, I ask the Denver Chapter of the Letterheads for their support for this site. I haven't asked this year. After asking people to write...

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Sun Sep 26, 2004 11:28 pm
Post from Jul 19, 04

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by Mike Jackson » Sun Sep 26, 2004 8:32 pm

I should probably mention here that this BB is not restricted to Hand Lettering, but also to the additional topics of sign making, fabrication,...

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Last post by Mike Jackson
Sun Sep 26, 2004 8:32 pm
Atkinson: Asphaltum

Last post by Mike Jackson « Sun Sep 26, 2004 8:23 pm

by Mike Jackson » Sun Sep 26, 2004 8:23 pm

Here are a few comments I saw in Atkinson's book about asphaltum:

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Asphaltum:
Never...

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Last post by Mike Jackson
Sun Sep 26, 2004 8:23 pm
Atkinson Smalts

Last post by Mike Jackson « Sun Sep 26, 2004 8:03 pm

by Mike Jackson » Sun Sep 26, 2004 8:03 pm

Here's another little gem in the Atkinson book.

"Making Smalt: Use clear white beach sand and have perfectly dry. For black smalt use Lamp Black in...

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Last post by Mike Jackson
Sun Sep 26, 2004 8:03 pm
A Little Letterhead

Last post by Billy Pickett « Sun Sep 19, 2004 1:02 pm
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by Mike Jackson » Sat Sep 18, 2004 4:26 pm

This photo has been on our refrigerator door for quite a few years. It was taken at the 20th Anniversary Letterheads Meeting in Denver. Tyler, now...

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Last post by Billy Pickett
Sun Sep 19, 2004 1:02 pm
Pullman, Penn RR, etc

Last post by Mike Jackson « Sat Sep 18, 2004 5:27 pm

by Mike Jackson » Sat Sep 18, 2004 5:27 pm

A while back, Robare was asking about the Pullman Car lettering. I recently found a letter from the Palm Letter Co in which they say they supply the...

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Last post by Mike Jackson
Sat Sep 18, 2004 5:27 pm
Frank Atkinson pages begun

Last post by Larry White « Fri Sep 17, 2004 1:50 pm
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by Mike Jackson » Wed Sep 15, 2004 11:52 pm

I just created an entry page for a new section dedicated to Frank Atkinson. For now, it is just a basic introduction page. Eventually, I will have...

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Last post by Larry White
Fri Sep 17, 2004 1:50 pm
Silence in the Fall

Last post by Jon Harl « Wed Sep 15, 2004 7:39 pm
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by Mike Jackson » Mon Sep 13, 2004 11:39 pm

With the apparent lack of anything else to talk about on the Forum, I'll post a couple of photos from the area.

I took these two photos last...

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Last post by Jon Harl
Wed Sep 15, 2004 7:39 pm
Strong's Book of Designs

Last post by Mike Jackson « Tue Sep 14, 2004 10:05 am
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by admin » Thu Apr 08, 2004 3:07 am

This image show the two versions of the plate following the Title page of a Strong's Book of Designs (1910 and 1917) The book with the pink plate...

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Last post by Mike Jackson
Tue Sep 14, 2004 10:05 am
Silver patina finish

Last post by Sarah King « Fri Sep 10, 2004 7:37 pm
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by Roderick Treece » Sun Sep 05, 2004 4:48 pm

This ones from the no brain left dept.
Years ago I did a finish on silver leaf that looked like dark lead.Anybody know how to do that.All I remember...

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Last post by Sarah King
Fri Sep 10, 2004 7:37 pm
gems and jewels

Last post by Roderick Treece « Tue Sep 07, 2004 7:34 pm

by Roderick Treece » Tue Sep 07, 2004 7:34 pm

I received an e-mail from Dave Smith regrading "Diamonds"which lead me to beleave he might be trying to find out where I get my gems and jewels.
You...

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Last post by Roderick Treece
Tue Sep 07, 2004 7:34 pm
New permanent photos and pages added tonight

Last post by Ron Berlier « Sat Sep 04, 2004 5:45 pm
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by Mike Jackson » Sat Sep 04, 2004 1:20 am

Samuel Evans, a co-founder of Rawson & Evans.

Hi all,
Not many of us have any of the first few years of Signs of the Times magazines. Luckily for...

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Last post by Ron Berlier
Sat Sep 04, 2004 5:45 pm
Cutawl users?

Last post by Tony Segale « Wed Sep 01, 2004 8:32 am
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by Mike Jackson » Tue Aug 24, 2004 1:07 am

When I still lived in Oklahoma, I went ahead and spent the sizeable investment in a Cutawl (around $900 now). With the CNC routers, you don't see...

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Last post by Tony Segale
Wed Sep 01, 2004 8:32 am
Corel Draw clip art observation

Last post by Ralph Thorne « Tue Aug 31, 2004 10:17 pm
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by Mike Jackson » Tue Aug 31, 2004 7:02 pm

Darla is doing a few banners for the high school and middle school. One of them needed a silhouette/image of Thomas Edison. I know I have a bunch of...

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Last post by Ralph Thorne
Tue Aug 31, 2004 10:17 pm
Folded Paper Paint Cup

Last post by Mike Jackson « Tue Aug 31, 2004 3:58 pm
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by Gary Herpst » Fri Aug 27, 2004 4:26 pm

I was making a paint cup today and a fellow employee looked at me make one and said how amazingly quick I did it. I showed him how to make one and he...

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Tue Aug 31, 2004 3:58 pm
Signmaking 101: Mahl Sticks

Last post by Gary Herpst « Fri Aug 27, 2004 3:27 pm
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by Mike Jackson » Tue Jul 20, 2004 9:12 am

A long time ago, you could get into a heated debate between sign letterers about the virtues and needs of a mahl stick against the people who said...

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Last post by Gary Herpst
Fri Aug 27, 2004 3:27 pm
Email back up question

Last post by Mike Jackson « Fri Aug 27, 2004 10:50 am
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by Mike Jackson » Tue Aug 17, 2004 9:16 pm

Hi all, this one is mostly off topic, but I don't really know where else to ask and get a quick response. We had one of those summer thunderstorms...

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Last post by Mike Jackson
Fri Aug 27, 2004 10:50 am
American Sign Museum Opening

Last post by Kent Smith « Fri Aug 27, 2004 12:30 am
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by Tod Swormstedt » Thu Aug 19, 2004 6:42 am

Just wanted to let everyone know that the Rick Glawson Rawson & Evans pieces, acquired from his estate with donations primarily from individual...

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Last post by Kent Smith
Fri Aug 27, 2004 12:30 am
Eyvind Earle: Ya Gotta See This

Last post by Jack Wills « Thu Aug 26, 2004 12:28 pm

by Jack Wills » Thu Aug 26, 2004 12:28 pm

A former set designer for Disney.
Gallery21 closed after the death of Eyvind, 5 yrs ago.
Luckily on a visit to Carmel,CA Dave Simpson and I turn
a...

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Thu Aug 26, 2004 12:28 pm
111 Alphabet Sentences

Last post by norman « Thu Aug 26, 2004 8:48 am
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by Jill Marie Welsh » Sun Aug 15, 2004 10:47 am

Catharine Kennedy inspired me to find these on Google.
Thought that they were worth sharing!
I dare each one of you to paint them. Love...Jill...

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Thu Aug 26, 2004 8:48 am
A Packrat's Lament

Last post by John Lennig « Wed Aug 25, 2004 8:36 pm
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by Mike Jackson » Tue Aug 24, 2004 12:54 am

Most of the sign makers I know are packrats at least to some level--some like myself are worse than others. My Dad had a huge pile of National...

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Last post by John Lennig
Wed Aug 25, 2004 8:36 pm
Rawson & Evans style storefront sign...

Last post by Catharine C. Kennedy « Wed Aug 25, 2004 5:39 am
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by Larry White » Tue Aug 24, 2004 8:15 am

After taking David Butlers Photoshop class, I decided to create a computer graphic of a design for a sign that I had already drawn up. It's the...

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Last post by Catharine C. Kennedy
Wed Aug 25, 2004 5:39 am
It's becoming obsolete - paint? No! Vinyl!

Last post by Mike Jackson « Tue Aug 24, 2004 12:14 am
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by cam bortz » Thu Aug 19, 2004 2:05 pm

At least in my world. More specifically, cutting vinyl lettering. I haven't cut much of anything in over a month, as part of an experiment in how...

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Last post by Mike Jackson
Tue Aug 24, 2004 12:14 am
Beware Nigerian Fraud !

Last post by Roderick Treece « Fri Aug 20, 2004 12:00 pm

by Roderick Treece » Fri Aug 20, 2004 12:00 pm

Sorry to brake for the normal topic.
There is a scam going around .Anyone selling items on the internet is a possible victim.
I was contacted about...

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Last post by Roderick Treece
Fri Aug 20, 2004 12:00 pm
Wanted: Dimensional letters

Last post by Tod Swormstedt « Thu Aug 19, 2004 6:49 am

by Tod Swormstedt » Thu Aug 19, 2004 6:49 am

Per the announcement about the opening of the American Sign Museum, we are still in need of samples of three-dimensinal letters--and especially...

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Last post by Tod Swormstedt
Thu Aug 19, 2004 6:49 am
Smith's Cream

Last post by John Lennig « Sat Aug 14, 2004 4:21 pm
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by John Lennig » Sun Aug 08, 2004 3:14 pm

Hello all, i'm wanting to some smallish(panel is 11"x18",MDO) paint-oneshot- areas on this panel, and do a little blending.
i've tried using the...

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Last post by John Lennig
Sat Aug 14, 2004 4:21 pm
Now this gent is my kind of wall dog.

Last post by William Holohan « Thu Aug 12, 2004 9:45 am

by William Holohan » Thu Aug 12, 2004 9:45 am

Got this in an email this morning. Well worth a peek. Some really nice brush work on a rough substrate....

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Last post by William Holohan
Thu Aug 12, 2004 9:45 am
Signmaking 101: Smith's Cream - Techniques and Uses

Last post by Doug Bernhardt « Wed Aug 11, 2004 9:06 pm
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by Dan Seese » Mon Aug 09, 2004 1:46 pm

Danacolors Smiths Cream D406 works well for blending colors when painting a pictorial, a mural or just doing some decorative painting.
I use this...

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Last post by Doug Bernhardt
Wed Aug 11, 2004 9:06 pm
Wenzel's "Modern Decorative Art" (large images)

Last post by Roderick Treece « Tue Aug 10, 2004 4:57 pm
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by Mike Jackson » Wed Aug 04, 2004 4:05 pm

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Tue Aug 10, 2004 4:57 pm
Old Sign Photos...

Last post by Larry White « Mon Aug 09, 2004 2:50 pm

by Larry White » Mon Aug 09, 2004 2:50 pm

Dave Smith from over in England sent me these pictures that he had found. Looks like there's some nice old glass signs in the background. Perhaps...

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Last post by Larry White
Mon Aug 09, 2004 2:50 pm
Disaster!!!

Last post by Doug Bernhardt « Sat Aug 07, 2004 8:13 pm
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by Jeff Umsted » Sun Aug 01, 2004 6:41 pm

Disaster!!!!

With all things in life there are highs and lows. Today was a low for me. I had just finished, and i mean just finished, cleaning my...

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Last post by Doug Bernhardt
Sat Aug 07, 2004 8:13 pm
Signmaking 101: The 5 carving tools I use most.

Last post by joe cieslowski « Fri Aug 06, 2004 11:58 am
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by joe cieslowski » Thu Aug 05, 2004 11:51 am

I am frequently asked what is a good "set" of tools to begin with.
For relief carving (not letter carving) I recommend these 5 tools. They are the...

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Last post by joe cieslowski
Fri Aug 06, 2004 11:58 am
Carving Chisels on Ebay...

Last post by joe cieslowski « Fri Aug 06, 2004 8:26 am
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by Larry White » Tue Jul 27, 2004 4:23 pm

I have a set of wood carving chisels I put up on ebay if anyone is interested. I'd much rather sell them to a sign person...

-LW

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Last post by joe cieslowski
Fri Aug 06, 2004 8:26 am
Train Car Lettering

Last post by Carol « Thu Aug 05, 2004 10:48 am
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by Robare M. Novou » Mon Jul 26, 2004 5:55 pm

Does anyone on this site have any information or leads to information concerning train lettering? To be more specific, Railroad trains from around...

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Last post by Carol
Thu Aug 05, 2004 10:48 am
New book of interest: The Barn Painter

Last post by Mike Jackson « Thu Aug 05, 2004 10:12 am

by Mike Jackson » Thu Aug 05, 2004 10:12 am

Hi all,
Looks like there will be a book about Harley Warrick out in the next week or so. Here's a note from his son, Roger:

Hello!
As some of you...

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Last post by Mike Jackson
Thu Aug 05, 2004 10:12 am
Signmaking 101: Sharpening Chisels

Last post by Doug Bernhardt « Wed Aug 04, 2004 9:21 pm
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by Mike Jackson » Mon Jul 19, 2004 11:50 pm
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Actually, this one is more of a question than an answer!

Back at the Oklahoma Bash, Dusty Yaxley (from Florida) demonstrated an interesting wheel he...
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Last post by Doug Bernhardt
Wed Aug 04, 2004 9:21 pm
Goin' large again...

Last post by Jeff Umsted « Wed Aug 04, 2004 6:20 pm
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by Larry White » Tue Aug 03, 2004 4:18 pm

Every now and then we get a piece of tempered glass that's the wrong size so it gets slated for the dumpster... wrong... it get's made into another...

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Last post by Jeff Umsted
Wed Aug 04, 2004 6:20 pm
Spanjer Catalogs

Last post by Mike Jackson « Wed Aug 04, 2004 3:54 pm

by Mike Jackson » Wed Aug 04, 2004 3:54 pm

Here's a bunch of Spanjer Letter Catalog images brought over from the old Forum. You can read all the posts through this link:

You can see even more...

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Last post by Mike Jackson
Wed Aug 04, 2004 3:54 pm
on Spanjer letters

Last post by Mike Jackson « Wed Aug 04, 2004 3:47 pm
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by Catharine C. Kennedy » Fri Jul 30, 2004 5:14 am

With the Spanjer type fancy carved letters- would the whole word (s) have been in the same fancy style, or just the initial letter? Having looked at...

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Last post by Mike Jackson
Wed Aug 04, 2004 3:47 pm
Signmaking 101: Adhering Photos to glass

Last post by Doug Bernhardt « Tue Aug 03, 2004 9:14 pm
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by Mike Jackson » Tue Aug 03, 2004 9:55 am

Doug Bernhardt mentioned his 1/3, /1/3, 1/3 mixture in a post earlier for adhering a photo, painting, card or similar paper image to the back of a...

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Last post by Doug Bernhardt
Tue Aug 03, 2004 9:14 pm
Pictorals on glass - Saran Wrap?

Last post by Danny Baronian « Tue Aug 03, 2004 6:03 pm
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by Kelly Thorson » Fri Jul 30, 2004 5:20 pm

Can anyone tell me how this is done? I assume that you paint on the saran wrap and adhere to the back of your glass with size. Can this be used with...

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Last post by Danny Baronian
Tue Aug 03, 2004 6:03 pm
Lead Foil

Last post by Robare M. Novou « Sun Aug 01, 2004 10:12 pm
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by Robare M. Novou » Wed Jul 28, 2004 12:41 pm

Looking for some information on lead foil. I know that it can still be purchased, here locally and over the internet.

I read and have seen that it...

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Last post by Robare M. Novou
Sun Aug 01, 2004 10:12 pm
Signmaking "301": Abalone and Mother of Pearl

Last post by Danny Baronian « Thu Jul 29, 2004 10:24 pm
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by Mike Jackson » Fri Jul 23, 2004 9:30 am

In another thread, Catharine Kennedy asked about applying Abalone and Mother of Pearl. We have been posting Signmaking 101 threads lately, but this...

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Last post by Danny Baronian
Thu Jul 29, 2004 10:24 pm
Lettering brushes and Hot pants?

Last post by Carol « Wed Jul 28, 2004 10:53 pm
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by Roderick Treece » Wed Jul 28, 2004 8:38 pm

Lately all the great things for sale on e-bay that have been mentioned on this post have been very cool .But I checked out the lettering brushes and...

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Last post by Carol
Wed Jul 28, 2004 10:53 pm
Signmaking 101: Making Rubbings

Last post by Mike Jackson « Sun Jul 25, 2004 10:27 pm

by Mike Jackson » Sun Jul 25, 2004 10:27 pm

Most people probably already know how to make a rubbing, but just in case, here goes:

Over the years, Darla and I have made hundreds of rubbings off...

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Last post by Mike Jackson
Sun Jul 25, 2004 10:27 pm
AKA: Handlettering

Last post by Jack Wills « Fri Jul 23, 2004 3:06 pm
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by oatis » Sun Jun 27, 2004 2:13 am

I am happy to know the site exists, though my thrill at discovering it is ,frankly,tempered a bit upon my first perusal.

In my city, we have large...

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Last post by Jack Wills
Fri Jul 23, 2004 3:06 pm
Signmaking 101 Roller Covers

Last post by Rick Sacks « Fri Jul 23, 2004 7:01 am
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by Jack Wills » Thu Jul 22, 2004 8:54 am

For making sure of a clean layer of color on MDO or laminated
aluminum panels, I prefer to use a mohair cover. I will first lay
a length of transfer...

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Last post by Rick Sacks
Fri Jul 23, 2004 7:01 am
Signmaking 101: Ladders/Walkboards & Sketches

Last post by Rick Sacks « Thu Jul 22, 2004 8:54 pm
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by John Lennig » Wed Jul 21, 2004 12:09 pm

Ok, mike, not real tricky, but important, all the same.

My friend was on a ladder/plank set-up doing trim painting on his house. He had been...

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Thu Jul 22, 2004 8:54 pm

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