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Goodbye my friend....John Jordan passes

Last post by Roderick Treece « Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:36 pm
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by Kelly Thorson » Mon Nov 13, 2006 6:53 pm

I received a phone call from Paul Jordan today. It is with a very heavy heart that I tell you of the passing of a dear friend John Jordan last night....

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Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:36 pm
Rove Gratz Died Yesterday

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by Ricky Jackson » Fri Nov 17, 2006 12:46 pm

My very good friend and mentor, Rove Gratz, died yesterday after his bout with cancer. The funeral will be Monday and his widow, Linda, asked to be a...

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Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:23 pm
Dumb Vinyl Question

Last post by cam bortz « Thu Nov 16, 2006 4:40 pm
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by Doug Bernhardt » Fri Nov 03, 2006 9:02 pm

Okay I shouldn't actually post this here but what the heck, Today I was hand cutting some mask (I don't have a plotter) which I do occassionally and...

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Last post by cam bortz
Thu Nov 16, 2006 4:40 pm
making angel gilding more "yellow"

Last post by Judith Trezza « Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:18 am
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by Judith Trezza » Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:32 am

Hello all,
I am working on a restoration project involving silvered/mirrored, yellow float glass. It has proved impossible to find smoothe float...

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Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:18 am
Ghost Signs Proposal

Last post by Kelly Thorson « Thu Nov 09, 2006 11:32 pm
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by Kelly Thorson » Thu Nov 09, 2006 1:46 pm

I'm in the process of discussing a proposal for the documentation of the Ghost Signs of Moose Jaw. The city is rich with old ghost images...

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Last post by Kelly Thorson
Thu Nov 09, 2006 11:32 pm
Images on Tile

Last post by Kelly Thorson « Thu Nov 09, 2006 11:31 pm
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by Kelly Thorson » Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:56 pm

I thinking of incorporating some old scenes of a town into the pillars on an entry monument type sign. Because of the freeze/thaw cycle I'll have to...

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Last post by Kelly Thorson
Thu Nov 09, 2006 11:31 pm
Photo Resist for glass etch

Last post by Patrick Mackle « Tue Nov 07, 2006 6:10 pm
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by John Grenier » Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:33 pm

I am doing some glass etching and would like to know more about photo resist process (for complex designs and smaller than a cut mask). Someone here...

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Tue Nov 07, 2006 6:10 pm
Thanks for being here.

Last post by John Lennig « Sun Nov 05, 2006 10:57 pm
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by carlos venson » Sun Nov 05, 2006 10:05 pm

Just a quick thanks for all of you being here for guys like me. Most all of my sign painting pals have gone to help with those repaints, waiting for...

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Last post by John Lennig
Sun Nov 05, 2006 10:57 pm
new member and question

Last post by carlos venson « Sun Nov 05, 2006 3:14 pm
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by Jim Patrow » Thu Nov 02, 2006 1:40 pm

Long time, old style sign painter, no vinyl cutter (always farmed it out)....pretty much stuck in the past I guess, which is why it took me so long...

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Sun Nov 05, 2006 3:14 pm
Hey Noel B. Weber! Where are you?

Last post by Catharine C. Kennedy « Sun Nov 05, 2006 6:08 am
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by Mike Jackson » Sat Nov 04, 2006 9:37 am

Hi folks,
Noel was over here a couple of years ago working on image art for a Conclave. While here, I helped him register on this forum and even...

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Last post by Catharine C. Kennedy
Sun Nov 05, 2006 6:08 am
Boise workshop was good

Last post by Kelly Thorson « Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:13 am
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by Russ McMullin » Tue Oct 31, 2006 1:52 am

Noel Weber and John Studden did a great job with the Boise workshop. Each participant did 4 project pieces, and each project used different...

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Last post by Kelly Thorson
Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:13 am
Recent Photos

Last post by Ian Stewart-Koster « Wed Nov 01, 2006 8:17 am
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by Mike Jackson » Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:58 am

Hello everyone,
Besides all the normal photos around here, I have been learning a new technique called "Light Painting". Basically, the technique is...

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Last post by Ian Stewart-Koster
Wed Nov 01, 2006 8:17 am
Sign Kits

Last post by Ian Stewart-Koster « Wed Nov 01, 2006 8:12 am
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by Terry Colley » Sun Sep 04, 2005 9:01 am

First time posting a photo hope it worked

Following on from the thread on Steven Parish trimming tools got me onto the subject of sign kits, I have...

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Last post by Ian Stewart-Koster
Wed Nov 01, 2006 8:12 am
Holy Camoles!!!

Last post by Pierre St. Marie « Thu Oct 26, 2006 6:10 pm
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by Pierre St. Marie » Sun Oct 22, 2006 1:15 pm

How could this have been here for so long without me having a clue as to it's existence??
In all the times I've called Rick Sacks he just this...

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Last post by Pierre St. Marie
Thu Oct 26, 2006 6:10 pm
Strange days indeed

Last post by cam bortz « Thu Oct 26, 2006 9:46 am
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by cam bortz » Tue May 25, 2004 8:15 am

I wish I had money to play with like this...

Back in September a client came to us recommended by a friend. She was building a bar/restaurant in a...

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Last post by cam bortz
Thu Oct 26, 2006 9:46 am
gold leaf workshop

Last post by John Studden « Wed Oct 18, 2006 11:06 am
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by John Studden » Tue Oct 03, 2006 11:16 am

Noel Weber & myself will be holding a 3 day Workshop on Gold Leaf Techniques in Boise ID. on October 27, 28, 29. This would be an excellent chance...

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Last post by John Studden
Wed Oct 18, 2006 11:06 am
How to video

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by Sarah King » Tue Oct 17, 2006 2:21 pm

Drum roll, maestro, please. has the great pleasure of announcing a new video entitled "Creating a Mirror on Glass: Silver & Gold" available on our...

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Last post by Sarah King
Tue Oct 17, 2006 2:21 pm
Mural Cam 06

Last post by Tony Segale « Tue Oct 17, 2006 12:17 pm
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by John Yarnell » Fri Oct 06, 2006 4:32 pm

Hello everyone, we are painting a big mural here in Boise. A local company set up a web cam so that all our letterhead friends could watch the...

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Last post by Tony Segale
Tue Oct 17, 2006 12:17 pm
Old Ronan Ads Anyone??????

Last post by Doug Fielder « Mon Oct 16, 2006 1:10 am
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by Doug Fielder » Mon Oct 09, 2006 11:33 pm

Hey All,

I have been busy with grad school here in San Francisco and still pinstriping, but am wondering who out there can help me out with any...

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Last post by Doug Fielder
Mon Oct 16, 2006 1:10 am
weed and acid

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by Roderick Treece » Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:19 pm

Cheers to John and David,
AKA Dickinsen,Thanks so much for hosting the impromtu meet at your shop on saturday.
La belle supreme art work by Mike...

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Sat Oct 14, 2006 8:03 pm
Silver mirroring and ONE SHOT

Last post by John Studden « Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:02 am
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by Roderick Treece » Fri Oct 06, 2006 7:18 pm

I am noticing that when I use one shot to back up mirroring it tarnishes it.Any ideas on that?

Roderick

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Last post by John Studden
Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:02 am
Nikon 18-200 VR lens?

Last post by Kelly Thorson « Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:32 am
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by Kelly Thorson » Sat Oct 07, 2006 3:13 pm

I've made the decision to purchase a Nikon D80. I'm having troubles deciding whether to go with the kit lens (18-135) or upgrade to the Nikon 18-200....

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Last post by Kelly Thorson
Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:32 am
Just Beginning...

Last post by Mike Jackson « Wed Oct 04, 2006 10:59 am
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by Mike Welborn » Mon Oct 02, 2006 3:50 pm

I am new to lettering and am trying to gain some knowledge. Any advice is much appreciated.

I am currently interested in learning, how to replicate...

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Last post by Mike Jackson
Wed Oct 04, 2006 10:59 am
If you like both photography and old signs

Last post by Kelly Thorson « Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:35 am

by Kelly Thorson » Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:35 am

I thought you might enjoy this link. Download the free slide show "Black Country" it is a treat to watch and has the added bonus of being on topic as...

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Last post by Kelly Thorson
Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:35 am
Guilding article

Last post by Kelly Thorson « Fri Sep 29, 2006 10:50 pm
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by Roderick Treece » Thu Sep 28, 2006 3:59 pm

My wife found this article.I'm sure you will enjoy it.

Roderick

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Last post by Kelly Thorson
Fri Sep 29, 2006 10:50 pm
Antique glass sign...help with a photo?

Last post by Mike Jackson « Thu Sep 28, 2006 3:00 pm
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by cam bortz » Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:10 am

I've had come into my posession a very cool antique glass sign, and if I can figure out how to get photos posted, I'll put them up here. :D

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Last post by Mike Jackson
Thu Sep 28, 2006 3:00 pm
Combining Gold and Micas

Last post by Kelly Thorson « Wed Sep 27, 2006 10:00 am
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by Kelly Thorson » Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:30 pm

I'm doing an outdoor sign with some 1.5" deep HDU lettering. I'm wondering about the possibility of gilding the faces and using mica for the sides....

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Last post by Kelly Thorson
Wed Sep 27, 2006 10:00 am
Mirroring stains in sandblasted areas

Last post by Ron Percell « Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:58 pm
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by Kelly Thorson » Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:17 pm

I coppered a mirror with lots of depth carved areas that I want to gild with gold and variegated leaf. The copper solution has stained the...

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Last post by Ron Percell
Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:58 pm
1915 Fire Engine - Gold Leaf on yellow?

Last post by Doug Bernhardt « Sun Sep 17, 2006 8:58 pm
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by Kelly Thorson » Mon Jul 17, 2006 11:31 pm

This 1915 Reo Speedwagon Fire Truck is about to be repainted. The owner has had it for 20 years and is sure that it was a white fire truck. The...

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Last post by Doug Bernhardt
Sun Sep 17, 2006 8:58 pm
Gold Leaf Glass Sign/ mueseum show

Last post by Roderick Treece « Tue Sep 12, 2006 8:23 pm
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by Roderick Treece » Tue Aug 29, 2006 11:51 am

I happen to live down the street from the Gemological Institute of America.They just opened the 75th aniversary diamond and gem show this week.Some...

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Last post by Roderick Treece
Tue Sep 12, 2006 8:23 pm
Deadman double-matte gild technique

Last post by Roderick Treece « Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:27 am
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by Steven Vigeant » Sun Sep 10, 2006 12:19 am

I'd like to think my gilding is finally improving thanks to Ron Pecell and others who were so patient with me at the Deadman meet. I've also had lots...

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Last post by Roderick Treece
Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:27 am
Surface Gild Failure

Last post by Ron Percell « Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:34 am
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by Rick Sacks » Sat Jul 29, 2006 8:27 am

We sealed the incised letters of this redwood slab with a few coats of shellac, then a coat of 1 shot white, then a tad of imitation gold into...

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Last post by Ron Percell
Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:34 am
pub decorative art

Last post by DAVE SMITH « Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:16 am
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by Roderick Treece » Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:13 pm

I found this site while doing a search for pub mirrors.Check it out ,there are some very nice pieces.Maybe David Smith know where this place is....

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Last post by DAVE SMITH
Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:16 am
semi-gloss undercoats for better adheason?

Last post by Roderick Treece « Fri Aug 25, 2006 1:28 pm
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by joe cieslowski » Mon Aug 21, 2006 10:52 am

I finish my signs with four coats of clear. I like a gloss finish.

Will I get better adheason between undercoats if I use semi-gloss? Do I still...

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Last post by Roderick Treece
Fri Aug 25, 2006 1:28 pm
Ephemera, Signs, and Etc. Ebay Auction

Last post by Larry White « Thu Aug 24, 2006 9:54 am

by Larry White » Thu Aug 24, 2006 9:54 am

Show Time Auctions is conducting another one of their auctions of nice old signage and ephemera. Nice place to grab some images!

-Larry

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Last post by Larry White
Thu Aug 24, 2006 9:54 am
metal gilding boxes

Last post by Kent Smith « Sun Aug 20, 2006 2:00 pm
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by John Frankel » Wed Aug 16, 2006 9:22 pm

who sells these metal containers to store your gilding equip. :?: :?:

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Last post by Kent Smith
Sun Aug 20, 2006 2:00 pm
Welcome Karen Souza

Last post by Doug Bernhardt « Sat Aug 19, 2006 6:45 pm
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by Doug Bernhardt » Sun Jul 30, 2006 5:21 pm

Hi Karen....Not sure if you'll remember but we have met a few times over the years. I took a look through your web page and you have (as always)...

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Last post by Doug Bernhardt
Sat Aug 19, 2006 6:45 pm
nice texture

Last post by Mike Jackson « Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:45 am
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by Roderick Treece » Wed Aug 16, 2006 10:06 am

I found this web site while doing a search for sandblasted water textures.It appeares to be chipped but it might also be deep carved first.What do...

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Last post by Mike Jackson
Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:45 am
distressing gold leaf.........

Last post by Pete witney « Mon Aug 14, 2006 6:12 pm
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by vance galliher » Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:10 am

I'm doing a project for a local cabinet maker who is building several large wooden pieces of furniture that will be finished with a matte black. All...

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Last post by Pete witney
Mon Aug 14, 2006 6:12 pm
Cigar box guitars

Last post by Patrick Mackle « Mon Aug 07, 2006 4:35 pm

by Patrick Mackle » Mon Aug 07, 2006 4:35 pm

Found this website by chance. It has some old cigar boxes with label art that were incorporated into instruments. The DEXTER box has a neat logo....

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Last post by Patrick Mackle
Mon Aug 07, 2006 4:35 pm
Chipping insulated glass units

Last post by Larry White « Sun Aug 06, 2006 5:33 pm
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by Dan Seese » Sat Aug 05, 2006 12:06 pm

I have a client who has 3 small transoms (13" x 23") that they want to have some glue-chipping done on.
They are insulated units that have already...

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Last post by Larry White
Sun Aug 06, 2006 5:33 pm
The essence of the Letterheads...

Last post by John Frankel « Thu Aug 03, 2006 11:04 pm
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by Larry White » Mon Jul 31, 2006 5:04 pm

Mr. John Dickinson demonstrates various gilding processes to his boy Charlie at his first Letterhead meet.

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Last post by John Frankel
Thu Aug 03, 2006 11:04 pm
NOT my style!

Last post by Larry White « Wed Aug 02, 2006 10:48 am
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by joe cieslowski » Mon May 15, 2006 7:52 am

But I had fun anyway.....

All HDU....hand painted, cut and carved.

There are 2 pics here.

The MMVI are the initials for the "Mass Mayhem 6" meet...

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Last post by Larry White
Wed Aug 02, 2006 10:48 am
Protecting painted signs from weathering

Last post by Doug Bernhardt « Sun Jul 30, 2006 5:27 pm
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by Sue Maesen » Sat Jul 15, 2006 3:34 pm

Any suggestions for protecting the top edge of painted signs from the sun? What paint are you using to prevent flaking, etc.?

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Last post by Doug Bernhardt
Sun Jul 30, 2006 5:27 pm
Problem gilding deep crevices

Last post by John Studden « Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:41 am
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by Charles Plumber » Tue Jul 25, 2006 8:17 am

I am attempting to gild routed clear acrylic but am having trouble getting into the very deepest part of the rout. The rout is made with a 90 degree...

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Last post by John Studden
Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:41 am
Glass Sign Restoraton Workshop - Report

Last post by Mirella Nuzzolese « Mon Jul 24, 2006 4:23 am
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by Larry White » Tue Jun 06, 2006 4:06 pm

David Trujillo, formally with the Fine Gold Sign Company, under Rick Glawson, is holding a reverse glass sign restoration workshop on the weekend on...

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Last post by Mirella Nuzzolese
Mon Jul 24, 2006 4:23 am
Dave Smith's Silver Stain up-date

Last post by Patrick Mackle « Sun Jul 23, 2006 11:53 pm
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by Doug Bernhardt » Sun Jul 23, 2006 3:47 pm

Hi all...had a conversation with our buddy Mr.Smitty and I hate to inform you all, but he is having ISP problems and looks like he will be off line...

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Last post by Patrick Mackle
Sun Jul 23, 2006 11:53 pm
Victorian Silver Staining

Last post by Sarah King « Thu Jul 20, 2006 10:54 pm
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by DAVE SMITH » Sun Jul 16, 2006 3:55 pm

I have been experimenting over the last few days with silver staining and have had some great results ,so I thought I would share them here with you...

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Last post by Sarah King
Thu Jul 20, 2006 10:54 pm
Interesting new substrate

Last post by Jay Allen « Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:17 am
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by Mike Jackson » Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:49 pm

Hi all,
I was up in Grand Teton National Park the other day and noticed a small routed sign next to one of the rest rooms. On close inspection, the...

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Last post by Jay Allen
Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:17 am
BEST XX GLASS GOLD

Last post by John Moschioni « Fri Jul 14, 2006 10:06 am

by John Moschioni » Fri Jul 14, 2006 10:06 am

Please, if any of you veterans of glass gilding could tell me what you know about this glass gold or what your experiences have been with it. On the...

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Fri Jul 14, 2006 10:06 am

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