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Steel wool and black outlines

Last post by John Studden « Fri Aug 24, 2007 12:24 pm
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by Robert Schwieger » Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:42 am

Previous entries indicated that back-up black enamel plus 5% hardener when used as the black outlines prior to gilding (on glass) was burnished down...

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Last post by John Studden
Fri Aug 24, 2007 12:24 pm
Resin Roller

Last post by Dennis Davis « Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:16 pm
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by Dennis Davis » Sat Aug 18, 2007 7:45 pm

At the workshop here in Boise, Noel and John use a resin roller to level the hide glue for glue chipping. Since Noel is out of town, I'll throw my...

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Last post by Dennis Davis
Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:16 pm
Black on gold jobs

Last post by John Studden « Sun Aug 19, 2007 6:40 pm
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by Robert Schwieger » Wed Aug 15, 2007 5:00 pm

Avoiding varnish on glass backup makes sense and also produces a cleaner appearance. Having used a mixture of 1-Shot Black and Japan Black for drop...

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Last post by John Studden
Sun Aug 19, 2007 6:40 pm
$$$ sense?

Last post by Doug Bernhardt « Fri Aug 17, 2007 10:44 pm
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by Doug Bernhardt » Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:54 pm

After reading the sign pricing guide I always seem to watch the things I charge and spend a little closer for a couple or so months. I know the guy...

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Last post by Doug Bernhardt
Fri Aug 17, 2007 10:44 pm
Articles on glass techniques

Last post by Doug Bernhardt « Fri Aug 17, 2007 10:37 pm
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by Kelly Thorson » Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:36 pm

Here are a couple of good articles that explain some of the history and techniques of acid etching and brilliant cutting and glass painting
There is...

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Last post by Doug Bernhardt
Fri Aug 17, 2007 10:37 pm
Custom sign shop in NAPA,Cal

Last post by Roderick Treece « Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:09 pm

by Roderick Treece » Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:09 pm

I have a client that needs a custom sign shop in Napa,Cal.If anybody is interested let me know.

Thanks
Roderick
760 943 9299

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Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:09 pm
Glass gold sealer

Last post by Doug Bernhardt « Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:47 pm
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by Robert Schwieger » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:49 am

With information bouncing around regarding blistering and other failures of gold on glass I am wondering what IS the recomended final clear sealer....

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Last post by Doug Bernhardt
Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:47 pm
Gilded bird.....a new twist

Last post by vance galliher « Sun Aug 12, 2007 11:48 pm
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by vance galliher » Mon Aug 06, 2007 10:26 am

hahaahaaa.... as I'm about to start my gilding project on the carved bird, the architect now want the gilded bird to have the feeling of a Jackson...

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Last post by vance galliher
Sun Aug 12, 2007 11:48 pm
Pictures from Machine

Last post by Larry White « Sun Aug 12, 2007 8:54 pm
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by Kelly Thorson » Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:01 am

Thanks everyone for making it a very wonderful week!

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Last post by Larry White
Sun Aug 12, 2007 8:54 pm
Dave Smith's California Workshop

Last post by Tony Segale « Sun Aug 12, 2007 9:48 am
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by Danny Baronian » Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:08 am

Dave Smith arrived in the states last Sunday to conduct a workshop this week at Larry's shop in Hayward.

He brought a glass piece for Larry White...

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Last post by Tony Segale
Sun Aug 12, 2007 9:48 am
Painting on black sunbrella canvas

Last post by Larry White « Fri Aug 10, 2007 3:09 pm
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by Roderick Treece » Thu Aug 09, 2007 5:28 pm

Over the years one job that comes into my shop from time to time is lettering signs on black sunbrella canvas.Traditionally I allway paint it by hand...

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Last post by Larry White
Fri Aug 10, 2007 3:09 pm
1915 REO Speedwagon pictures

Last post by Kelly Thorson « Tue Aug 07, 2007 9:26 am

by Kelly Thorson » Tue Aug 07, 2007 9:26 am

Here are some pictures of the work in progress on the fire truck. I haven't got any of the finished product yet. There was an immense amount of work...

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Last post by Kelly Thorson
Tue Aug 07, 2007 9:26 am
I.G. Brown Signmaker

Last post by Roderick Treece « Fri Aug 03, 2007 7:00 pm

by Roderick Treece » Fri Aug 03, 2007 7:00 pm

I have heard rumors of an old signmaker from Livingston ,Montana named I.G Brown.Some of his work he would sign "IG did it".He would have been around...

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Fri Aug 03, 2007 7:00 pm
wiki subject now being started.

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by pete millichamp » Tue Jul 24, 2007 5:41 pm

check out

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Fri Aug 03, 2007 6:29 pm
Most Dangerous Tool in the Shop

Last post by Roderick Treece « Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:19 pm
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by Mike Jackson » Thu Jul 26, 2007 4:34 pm

I am not sure how we got on the subject, but Noel Weber and I were talking about dangerous tools in the shop. Table saws, radial arm saws, band saws,...

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Last post by Roderick Treece
Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:19 pm
Cutting the Phone Cord?

Last post by Mike Jackson « Fri Jul 27, 2007 4:54 pm
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by Mike Jackson » Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:46 pm

Each month, I write out several checks for our phone bills. Of course, most of us now have cell phones, but it seems there might be a lot of overlap...

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Fri Jul 27, 2007 4:54 pm
Mural method on YouTube

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by Carol » Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:07 am

C.

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Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:07 am
gilded bird..........

Last post by Doug Bernhardt « Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:31 pm
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by vance galliher » Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:57 am

I'm preparing to gild a fairly large bird carved from Port Orford Cedar. I plan to prime/paint/size/gild. My questions are: What should I thin the...

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Last post by Doug Bernhardt
Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:31 pm
Treating Mirror Waste Water

Last post by Sarah King « Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:54 pm

by Sarah King » Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:54 pm

It's not as sexy as Dave Smith's new gilders tip but I wanted to annouce that we have found a way to treat mirror runoff so you can pour it down the...

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Last post by Sarah King
Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:54 pm
"Windows Delayed Write Failure"

Last post by Mike Jackson « Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:01 am
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by Mike Jackson » Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:11 pm

Hi gang,
I am sitting here doing some back ups and restores from losing a 300 gig drive a few days ago. I think I had most of it backed up on another...

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Last post by Mike Jackson
Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:01 am
Bent Glass signs for my friends

Last post by DAVE SMITH « Sat Jul 21, 2007 3:18 pm

by DAVE SMITH » Sat Jul 21, 2007 3:18 pm

I finally managed to finish these little curved glass signs.
I have made one for Larry White whose work I really admire and his enthusiasm to this...

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Last post by DAVE SMITH
Sat Jul 21, 2007 3:18 pm
Old Tavern Signs Book

Last post by William Holohan « Sat Jul 21, 2007 2:35 pm
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by Kelly Thorson » Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:02 am

I bought this book a few months ago on ebay. It was published in November 1916 and is number 367 of 550 numbered copies. The author was Fritz...

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Last post by William Holohan
Sat Jul 21, 2007 2:35 pm
Anyone had experience with Starphire glass ?

Last post by Kent Smith « Sat Jul 21, 2007 9:42 am
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by vance galliher » Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:55 am

I'm doing more LED lighted carved glasswork now and my glass of choice is Starphire, because of its optic clarity (low lead/low iron content) It is...

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Last post by Kent Smith
Sat Jul 21, 2007 9:42 am
skiing

Last post by Mike Jackson « Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:06 pm
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by pete millichamp » Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:35 pm

Hi
Non-signrelated,

Mike, whats the skiing like in Jackson in december, looking for a stateside venue for this year...any ideas as to areas,...

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Last post by Mike Jackson
Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:06 pm
Moose Jaw meet?

Last post by Kelly Thorson « Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:25 am
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by Larry White » Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:58 am

I thought for sure the Handlettering Forum sent a reporter up to the Moose Jaw Letterhead meet. What happened to them? Did they do anything up there?...

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Last post by Kelly Thorson
Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:25 am
Applying Images to glass

Last post by Doug Bernhardt « Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:44 pm
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by DAVE SMITH » Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:04 am

I Have just had a job come in for resilvering and restoring 1900 bevelled mirrors with litho images applied to the reverse of the glass.
In the past...

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Last post by Doug Bernhardt
Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:44 pm
Mike Stevens Video and ARTSIGN question.

Last post by Doug Fielder « Wed Jul 11, 2007 4:22 pm
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by Charles Borges de Oliveir » Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:15 am

This is a rather odd question but oh well here goes. I was looking at one of my older signcraft magazines and saw an add for the Mike Stevens video....

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Last post by Doug Fielder
Wed Jul 11, 2007 4:22 pm
Need help entering the 21st century

Last post by Doug Fielder « Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:33 pm
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by Kim Ross » Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:55 am

I'm a pin striper in Phoenix (24 yrs.in business) and I've become very interested in hand lettering. My computer & I are barely on speaking terms...

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Last post by Doug Fielder
Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:33 pm
Looking for an MDO alternative

Last post by Roderick Treece « Sat Jul 07, 2007 6:07 pm
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by Roderick Treece » Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:28 pm

Does anybody have an alternative to MDO?

I know the answer is YES ! Har Har Har

I just purchased some 3/4 MDO for a cut double sided hanging sign...

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Last post by Roderick Treece
Sat Jul 07, 2007 6:07 pm
Goldfather Tribute to John Jordan Viewable on Net

Last post by Kelly Thorson « Sat Jul 07, 2007 1:16 pm
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by Kelly Thorson » Sat Jun 23, 2007 3:18 pm

We've arranged a two way video feed between the Jordan family and the Moose Jaw meet during the Goldfather Banquet for the tribute to John. If anyone...

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Last post by Kelly Thorson
Sat Jul 07, 2007 1:16 pm
Rawson and Evans on ebay

Last post by Doug Bernhardt « Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:51 pm
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by Roderick Treece » Thu Jul 05, 2007 7:21 pm

Check this one out.One guess as to who the seller is.

Outta my price range

Roderick

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Last post by Doug Bernhardt
Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:51 pm
Glue chip: heat vs cold

Last post by Larry White « Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:24 am
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by Robert Schwieger » Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:10 am

Having had reasonable success with glue chipping, still experiementing, I still seek guidance regarding a step in the process:
Working in high...

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Last post by Larry White
Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:24 am
Frank George Holmes Brilliant Cutter Liverpool, England

Last post by Roderick Treece « Tue Jul 03, 2007 7:05 pm
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by DAVE SMITH » Sun Jul 01, 2007 7:23 am

About 8 months ago ,I received a phone call from Stuart Norton, a brilliant cutter from Newcastle. He told me about some old stone wheels which were...

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Last post by Roderick Treece
Tue Jul 03, 2007 7:05 pm
Glue Chip Glue?

Last post by Sarah King « Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:39 am
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by Bob Ficucell » Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:54 am

Does anyone know if glue chip glue goes bad? ie won't chip .
I got some from Rick, mixed it the same low humdity, even used a heat lamp, just barely...

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Last post by Sarah King
Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:39 am
Recent Photos from Jackson Hole, Grand Tetons, & Yellows

Last post by Danny Baronian « Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:15 pm
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by Mike Jackson » Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:34 pm

Hello all,
In the recent post about the Blue Moon (two in one month), a few people said they wanted to see some more photos.

I spent a few days...

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Last post by Danny Baronian
Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:15 pm
Scotish Pubs Facades

Last post by Chris Lovelady « Thu Jun 28, 2007 3:14 pm
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by Chris Lovelady » Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:26 am

I am researching scottish pubs signs and facades for a remodle and signages for a pub. looking for any visual referances, links to any site or if you...

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Last post by Chris Lovelady
Thu Jun 28, 2007 3:14 pm
First days of "Summer"

Last post by Mike Jackson « Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:39 pm
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by Mike Jackson » Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:39 am

Hi Forum readers,
Most people probably saw the notation on their calendar that the 21st of June marks the first official day of Summer. After...

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Last post by Mike Jackson
Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:39 pm
1886 Glass Silver bromide

Last post by Roderick Treece « Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:26 am
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by DAVE SMITH » Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:06 am

I was at an antiques warehouse a few weeks back and I came across this old photo with the original newspaper pressed against the back. It was in a...

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Last post by Roderick Treece
Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:26 am
Subject; Etching tempered glass...

Last post by Mike Jackson « Sat Jun 23, 2007 4:42 pm
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by john hick » Fri Jun 22, 2007 11:15 am

Hello all,

Thanks in advance for any help here. I'd like to etch some 2" high
horizontal bands across some 3/4" full glass, tempered, entry doors...

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Last post by Mike Jackson
Sat Jun 23, 2007 4:42 pm
Back to digital cameras

Last post by Mike Jackson « Fri Jun 22, 2007 6:34 pm
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by Doug Bernhardt » Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:10 pm

Is anyone here experimenting with HDR? I have seen some of the results at it is beyond outstanding!

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Last post by Mike Jackson
Fri Jun 22, 2007 6:34 pm
New web site look and update

Last post by vance galliher « Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:29 pm
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by Roderick Treece » Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:18 pm

Well we finally got around to updating the web site and adding lot's of new stuff.My favorite is the new PORTFOLIO section.
Thanks to everybody for...

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Last post by vance galliher
Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:29 pm
AutoArt's 50th...Special Leafing issue

Last post by Roderick Treece « Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:22 pm
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by Jennifer Bond » Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:49 pm

Hi everyone, Bob & Jennifer Bond here. AutoArt’s Sept/Oct issue is going to be a Special Edition, geared towards gold leaf and gold leaf applications...

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Last post by Roderick Treece
Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:22 pm
Mask(s) for glass glue chipping

Last post by vance galliher « Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:39 am
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by Robert Schwieger » Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:14 pm

For an "old timer" who still uses handcut masks for glass glue chipping please advise as to the preferred mask for chipping. Contact paper works OK...

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Last post by vance galliher
Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:39 am
Gilding Lead Came

Last post by Rich Hawthorne « Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:19 pm
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by Rich Hawthorne » Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:49 pm

This may be obscure and since it is my first of many questions, please forgive the naivite (sp?). I am a stained glass artist and something I have...

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Last post by Rich Hawthorne
Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:19 pm
chipping on 1/8" glass

Last post by Tony Segale « Fri Jun 15, 2007 6:11 pm
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by Roderick Treece » Sat Jun 02, 2007 6:23 pm

Has anybody ever chipped on 1/8" glass.

Roderick

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Last post by Tony Segale
Fri Jun 15, 2007 6:11 pm
Slumped Brilliant cut and acid toned glass panels

Last post by Wayne Osborne « Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:03 pm
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by DAVE SMITH » Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:16 am

This really is just a follow up of my tests which were carried out for glass slumping in a recent post. I have just finished silvering these pieces...

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Last post by Wayne Osborne
Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:03 pm
Slumped Glass Corner Sign

Last post by DAVE SMITH « Wed Jun 13, 2007 4:41 pm
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by DAVE SMITH » Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:21 am

Hi again everyone

I made a couple of these glass curved signs as a test for a possible job here . I made one for Larry White and one for my wall in...

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Last post by DAVE SMITH
Wed Jun 13, 2007 4:41 pm
sand blasted glass

Last post by Kent Smith « Tue Jun 12, 2007 8:17 am
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by Jerry Berg » Thu May 03, 2007 12:17 pm

Hello All,
Looks like I'm the newest member! Anyway, got a question. I've been doing sand blasted signs now for some time and have always wanted to...

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Last post by Kent Smith
Tue Jun 12, 2007 8:17 am
water gild supplies

Last post by Rich Hawthorne « Mon Jun 11, 2007 11:11 pm
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by Jerry Berg » Sun Jun 10, 2007 4:22 pm

My sign supplier in Portland, Oregon here has never heard of gelatin diamonds. I've been wanting to use them for some time now. My supplier said to...

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Last post by Rich Hawthorne
Mon Jun 11, 2007 11:11 pm
Abandoned....

Last post by Kelly Thorson « Mon Jun 11, 2007 12:56 am
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by Kelly Thorson » Thu Jun 07, 2007 3:00 am

One of the things that personifies me is my love of the "old".
Saskatchewan has more than her share of turn of the century artifacts...so many in...

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Mon Jun 11, 2007 12:56 am

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