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This is an interactive Bulletin Board on the topics of Sign making, design, fabrication, History, old Books and of coarse Letterheads, Keepers of the craft. The Hand Lettering Forum features links to resources, sign art history, techniques, and artists profiles. Learn more about Letterheads at https://theletterheads.com. Below you'll see Mchat has been added as a live communication portal for trial, and the Main forum Links are listed below.

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Posted by Chris Owen on December 21, 2002

During the past 38 years, my work-life has alternated between two diverse professions,...

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Hamilton Bank Note reverse glass sign, Step-by-Step Part 5

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by Larry White » Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:30 pm

I added an airbrushed black glaze around the pictorial border. It has added a needed contrast. Now I'll call it done! Thanks for following along....

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Painting small letters

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by Barry Robertson » Wed Aug 10, 2022 1:19 am

Hello, Everyone.
Over the years, I've visited this forum and enjoyed reading and learning as well as understanding aspects of the craft which were...

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Kathy Baronian

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by Dan Seese » Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:59 pm

I hope it's okay for me to take the liberty to let everyone know that Kathy Baronian (Danny Baronian's wife) died in her sleep last Saturday - June...

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Danny Barronian's Health

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by Mike Jackson » Tue Mar 15, 2022 3:36 pm

I spoke with Danny recently. He told me he wasn't feeling too well and after a bit of prying, he told me the doctors found new cancer and gave him...

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Blade Holder

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by John Frankel » Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:37 am

I am looking for them as well .

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Letter Drawing and Construction

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by James Young » Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:06 pm

Hi Guys,

I really want to get better at letter formations and specifically more flourished lettering in particular. Where does everyone find...

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Fri Jun 17, 2022 4:34 pm
1st surface glass gild

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by Lesssley » Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:40 pm

Hi All! This is my first post, and it's great to read all of yours.
I'm doing a satin finish gild on the front of a glass door, as the glass is...

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Water Gild over Water Based Spray Paint/ HF SAFETY

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by James Young » Wed Jan 12, 2022 10:44 pm

Hey guys!

Long time lurker first time poster here.
I know it goes against the point somewhat of this forum. I have been practicing hand lettering...

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Thu Apr 14, 2022 7:53 pm
sign contractors pricing guide

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by Sven Lynch » Tue Mar 22, 2022 9:42 am

Hello everybody ! Been a while !

I just have been missing my old sign contractors pricing guide from 2003 I think it was which had
Just a few...

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Glue Chipped Glass Issues

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by Ron Percell » Tue Aug 24, 2021 5:45 pm

Glue Chipped Glass Issues
Glue Chipped Glass heads up, looking to get input on glue chipping problems folks have been having recently.

Over the...

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Yet another newbie

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by Vladimir Sementukh » Thu Aug 08, 2013 6:26 am
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Good day!
I apologize for my English, I can not speak on it.
If you do not mind, I'll use the "Google translator."
I'm from Russia, from the city...
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GOLDLEAF, ACID ETECHING, GLASS

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by Kevin W Betz » Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:40 pm

Does anyone recognize this ?
Great Procedure and Quality Work

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RICK GLAWSON MEET

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by Kevin W Betz » Mon Feb 08, 2021 9:20 pm

I FOUND THIS TODAY.
ANY IDEA WHAT YEAR
THIS MEET WAS ?

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SignCraft is online now: Check out this video tutorial

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by Mike Jackson » Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:51 pm

The November/December issue marked the end of the print version of SignCraft Magazine. Covid-19 pushed them into a tough decision.

Besides all of...

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Merry Christmas- 2020

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by Anthony Bennett » Sat Dec 26, 2020 4:58 am

Merry Christmaas everybody.
Hopefully 2021 will be better than 2020 has been for all.

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Material Advice

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by Lois.Hinshelwood » Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:56 am

Hello, in need of a bit of advice. I’m painting some signs for a campsite and a bit stuck on what material to paint on. Ideally would like some...

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Palm & Fechteler Transfer Ornaments Part 1

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by Site Man » Fri Mar 25, 2005 11:38 am

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Posted by Mike Jackson on February 29, 2004

Here's an interesting book/catalog I added to the collection a few weeks ago. I can't...

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Sign Painters

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by Danny Baronian » Wed Apr 22, 2020 1:32 pm

If you haven't seen this already, you'll find it interesting:

Sign Painters, the FULL MOVIE:

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Water gilding woes

Last post by Doug Bernhardt « Mon Aug 17, 2020 7:32 pm
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by Kyrie-Anne McCune » Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:01 pm

Hello all!

I don't suppose any one could possibly help trouble shoot at all?
After polishing down the glass to remove any slight film on the float...

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Spatzier

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by Alfred de Goeij » Sun May 07, 2017 9:58 am

Look what I found!!!

I am not ready to start with this machine, but I buyed the thing! I started to shape it up.
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IMG_3478 kopie.jpg...

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Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:39 pm
Signmaking 101: Routers, router bits and CNC's

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by Danny Baronian » Tue Jul 20, 2004 5:55 pm

Anyone that cuts many panels or does dimensional work probably has a router in their shop. Many shops have now incorporated CNC equipment.

How do...

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Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:15 pm
Beginner sign painter from Lima Perú.

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by Jose Miguel » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:49 pm

Hi everyone, I'm Jose Miguel and I'm from Lima, Peru. I am a tattoo artist and painter. I've been practicing for 3 months, practicing on paper, the...

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Tue Jun 23, 2020 6:59 pm
Stay safe everybody

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by Anthony Bennett » Sun Mar 22, 2020 6:08 am

Hi all,
I know from my regular visitis here that loads of popl are still visitng this valuable rescouce every day.

Who ever you are, member or...

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Mon Mar 30, 2020 9:21 pm
How is this done

Last post by Terry Westlin « Sun Feb 02, 2020 9:58 am
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by Terry Westlin » Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:40 am

I mainly do etched glass and just dabble in gold leaf work so this is beyond me. I don't post much as I don't do much in the way of the techniques...

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Sun Feb 02, 2020 9:58 am
Novice glass chipping (build chipping/drawing table)

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by Alfred de Goeij » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:27 pm

Hello everybody,

I am from the Netherlands, and spend already a lot off hours on this forum.
My hobby is working with glass, and I begin with...

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Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:42 pm
Artwork for United Cigar Store sign

Last post by Dan Seese « Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:32 pm
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by Dan Seese » Thu Dec 05, 2019 2:31 pm

I have a friend who would like to do the United Cigar Store sign on glass. He drew some artwork in Illustrator based on a photo he took at Dave...

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Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:32 pm
Buying Asphaltum in the UK - question 2019

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by Anthony Bennett » Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:59 pm

Hi all,
I have a question that I am hoping someone will know the answer to. I appreciate most people on here don;t live in the UK and very few live...

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Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:23 am
Paint additive / topcoat for specific purpose?

Last post by Willie Stargell « Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:14 pm

by Willie Stargell » Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:14 pm

Hello -

Need to paint a few 48x48" logos on the outside of some big windows. Would you recommend using the hardener with one shot for this? How...

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Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:14 pm
What the font - advice please

Last post by Anthony Bennett « Fri Sep 27, 2019 4:06 am
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by Anthony Bennett » Thu Sep 26, 2019 10:34 am

Can anyone tell me if the font in the attached is a real font or if its hand lettering please?

I thought that it might be roseberry but the "S" is...

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Fri Sep 27, 2019 4:06 am
Vienna’s Last Signpainter (short film)

Last post by Danny Baronian « Wed Sep 25, 2019 4:12 pm
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by Paige Howarth » Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:38 am

I am sure some of you have seen this, but I thought I would share with those who hadn't. It's a lovely short piece about Josef Samuel's long career,...

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Wed Sep 25, 2019 4:12 pm
Pock marks in matte centers

Last post by Lee Littlewood « Sun Aug 25, 2019 1:37 am
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by Dan Seese » Wed Feb 25, 2015 11:22 pm
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I just completed a couple of gold leaf windows and noticed on one of the windows that some of the 16kt matte centers have little pock marks in them....
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Sun Aug 25, 2019 1:37 am
Steel letters Oklahoma City

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by David Reyes » Wed Aug 21, 2019 12:08 am

Letters plays a very important part in our life. Now a days, letters are used to decorate the house walls, doors and even your kitchen. Steel letters...

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Wed Aug 21, 2019 12:08 am
Any books on Mirroring glasss

Last post by Ismael Alvarado « Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:10 pm
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by John Frankel » Tue Feb 26, 2019 9:16 pm

Is there any books on the subject of mirroring glass.

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Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:10 pm
Etching cream vs sandblasting on glass

Last post by Anthony Bennett « Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:48 am
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by Robert Schwieger » Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:04 am

How come glass etching cream does not work reliably when used in place of sandblasting the glass? The etching cream is nice for small quick jobs but...

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Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:48 am
Easy Water Gilded Pinstripe Jig

Last post by Doug Bernhardt « Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:19 pm
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by Andrew Lawrence » Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:26 pm

I came upon a job where a client wanted some long pinstripes on a door. The problem was that they were nearly 8' long x 31" wide... and there were...

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Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:19 pm
Gremlins in my 12k white gold?

Last post by Doug Bernhardt « Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:04 pm
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by Lorenzo Petersson » Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:56 pm

Hello! Hoping that this is just an anomaly and that someone might have some info.

Has anyone ever have white gold (or other quality) refuse to leave...

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Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:04 pm
may switch from pc to mac...

Last post by Doug Bernhardt « Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:04 pm
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by vance galliher » Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:09 pm

what would be a good mac graphic program compatible with CorelDraw x5. (not into complicated graphics...basic/intermediate stuff )
thanks for all...

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Last post by Doug Bernhardt
Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:04 pm
first time using LeFrancs and having trouble.

Last post by Doug Bernhardt « Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:01 pm
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by Michael Hauxwell » Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:23 pm

Hi everyone,

This is my first post on the site and I was hoping for some guidance and advice on using Lefrancs 12 hour size. I'm a complete beginner...

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Last post by Doug Bernhardt
Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:01 pm
Vintage Bicycle "Badges"

Last post by Terry Westlin « Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:33 pm
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by Mike Jackson » Sat Jun 08, 2019 4:24 pm

I bought an old rusty bicycle at a garage sale today. It had a "Liberty" emblem on it. I did some searches for the company on the Internet and later...

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Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:33 pm
Slow Size

Last post by Kevin W Betz « Mon Apr 08, 2019 5:50 pm

by Kevin W Betz » Mon Apr 08, 2019 5:50 pm

Has anyone heard of GOLDEN LEAF PRODUCTS ?
They sell an 8 Hour Slow Size. I am curious.

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Mon Apr 08, 2019 5:50 pm
General Paint Safety

Last post by Lorenzo Petersson « Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:06 pm
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by Jamie Todek » Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:50 pm

Hello from Michigan!
I'm a designer whos currently got the letter-bug. I bought some 1shot paint and went at it painting some wood boards. I recently...

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Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:06 pm
Hamilton Bank Note reverse glass sign, Step-by-Step Part 1

Last post by Anthony Bennett « Mon Feb 25, 2019 5:26 am
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by Larry White » Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:45 pm

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I saw this wonderful image as I was looking through my Letterheads magazines. It was rather small, but I was able to get a larger...

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Mon Feb 25, 2019 5:26 am
Hamilton Bank Note reverse glass sign, Step-by-Step Part 4

Last post by Anthony Bennett « Mon Feb 25, 2019 5:08 am
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by Larry White » Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:11 pm

Step 8 - Rendering Secondary Copy
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I water gilded 18K gold and Paladium leaf, then back painted the copy. I took my original layout...

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Mon Feb 25, 2019 5:08 am
Hamilton Bank Note reverse glass sign, Step-by-Step Part 3

Last post by Larry White « Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:09 pm

by Larry White » Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:09 pm

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The line work is "over run" at the ends and then trimmed back to leave a sharp corner.

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This shows the "over run"...

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Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:09 pm
Hamilton Bank Note reverse glass sign, Step-by-Step Part 2

Last post by Larry White « Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:58 pm

by Larry White » Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:58 pm

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I then proceeded to water gild the robbon in Rouge Gold. Water gilding over embossed varnish is much like gilding over glue...

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Last post by Larry White
Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:58 pm
Hamilton Bank Note-Completed & Framed!

Last post by Larry White « Thu Feb 21, 2019 1:12 pm
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by Larry White » Tue Nov 01, 2005 2:36 pm
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The photos in this post became disassociated with the text.
The photos have been re-added into a post titled, Hamilton Bank Note reverse glass sign...
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Thu Feb 21, 2019 1:12 pm
The Silent Signwriter

Last post by Carmen Maher « Fri Jan 25, 2019 8:51 am
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by Kevin W Betz » Fri Oct 13, 2017 1:17 am

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Fri Jan 25, 2019 8:51 am
Hello from cloudy Washington DC

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by Nathaniel Buckner » Sat Nov 24, 2018 10:20 am

Hello world!
I'm a budding sign painter in DC.
My interest is predominately hand lettering and gilding on glass.

I am too novice to accept work for...

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