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Tony Segale
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Post by Tony Segale »

Blake,
listen outta yor good ear now...

the painting is titled
'Harmonica has Something Inside"
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Post by DAVE SMITH »

Tony
You made a very nice job of this mate. Look forward to seeing this as a big mural.
Dave
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WELL YOU....

Post by Larry White »

That's right, yeah...I got it here. I'll check it. Maybe I been thinkin' of them DVD scene titles...

Wait a minute!

You ain't got no jurdiction up here!



I bet......


AHO!
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I think he means jurisdiction.

Post by Tony Segale »

Time to hit the wall. Boom arrived yesterday morning, 25' to top.
Notice the white suburban parked next to my truck? The fella told me I took his parking space and he parks there every day.
Now this is a good size parking lot, with many open spaces. Kin's funny about those things.

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After all the smaller pen and paint prep, the mural dimensions have changed a bit.
16' to the top of the flag pole and 46+' wide. I had copies made at Kinkos of the pen rendering and the watercolor.
With a reduced version of the pen layout, I scaled a one foot grid in red over the pen. I plan to use the grid for much of the transfer of the design to the wall.
But, I would like to project the scenes. My studio isn't very large, 16' x 32' building, so I need to project the areas in 4'x8' sections. With a yellow highlite pen,
I color in 4x8, 4x6 and 3x8 pieces. These I will project later.

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Once I start, it'll happen fast.
Strapped myself inside the boom, and using the gridded layout, used a sharpie pen to draw the outer edges of the main silhouette of the mural.
The wall is stucco over a steel building, medium rough. Even though I will be using Ben Moore's self priming Aura paints,
I wanted to single coat prime the area. Layout and 2 gallons of primer the first day. Will be back at it this morning.

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That's enough for now.
Aho.
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I'll paint anything, 'cept a kid...

Post by Tony Segale »

picked up more primer this morning, finished with prime coat by 10:45am.
4+ gallons.

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Post by Larry White »

Now what?

Ya take the rest of the day off?


Does anybody have anything to say other than...

"Jenco sure knows how to milk a job and I don't know what Blake's talkin' about?"
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don't be doing me like that...

Post by Tony Segale »

of course I went back, for a couple hours.
with the sharpies, I marked the main structure supports, then I called it a day about 3pm.

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I'll paint any day, unless it becomes work. It be like workin on health, mental health day that is.

This afternoon, yeah Sunday, since I had marked the areas Friday afternoon,
I blocked in the base color in the scene and cloud areas...
using a 4inch trim roller and 9inch roller... 3 hours.

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Now, when will be the next day to play?
You, you don't know how to play.
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Post by Tony Segale »

Monday, Nov 24...
ordered more paint this morning...will be ready tomorrow.
Spent the day with paper work, then making three patterns...
for the main title text and flag.

Tuesday, Nov 25...
picked up the paint...
with Benjamin Moore Aura, paint dries in 1 hour, recoat in 4 hrs.
Now this may seem a problem to those who have used exterior latex painting a mural,
and I was concerned, especially when today will be the 'formation of clouds' day.
Benj Moore makes an extender for the Auras, add 1/2 pint, 8 ounces, per gallon... do not exceed measurements!
I had the paint reps at the store, machine shake 4 ounces to each gallon of the three colors I'll use for the clouds.
Also, I purchased a beautiful Corona chinex professional 4' brush to make large circular strokes.
I really love the way this paint flows and blends right on the wall. Finished all clouds in two hours.
Rolled 'tumeric' color in the header, and then returned to add white highlights to the clouds.
Total time this morning 3.5 hours.

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Came back after lunch and a haircut, pounced the three text and flag patterns to the wall, and marked lines with sharpies...
forecast 60% chance of rain this evening... don't want those chalk lines gone.
I'll have a pic tomorrow as it was dark when I finished.

Aho.
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Post by Ron Berlier »

Looking good there Tony. Thanks for taking the time to let us go along with you on this project.

By the way, how many people dies it take to hold a 4' brush anyway? :lol:
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Post by Tony Segale »

Thats what I like about this place, cut no slack around here... 4" brush or 4' brush? whats the difference? One brush is as good as another...

had a day of rain, wednesday prior to Thanksgiving..
Friday after, and after movin all the household xmas decor up from the basement, I hit the wall from 1:30 - 4:30
sharpie marks were ready two days ago...

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banged in the flag and lettering colors...

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that's enough for now, come on in, its getting late.
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Post by Tony Segale »

Saturday, beautiful weather.... put in five hours

finshed filling in the letters, and then began the outline

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Post by Tony Segale »

Sunday, the weather was even nicer...5 3/4 hours

I finshed the outline, added shape shadows to the flag and began pouncing and painting the victorian ornaments into the header.
the pattern is 4' long, not 4", finished 12' of header...

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Post by Tony Segale »

Monday, Dec 1.... dense fog... never broke all day, never got above 60 degrees...
hit the wall from 11am - 3pm

painted 14' more header, works out to 3 1/2 feet per hour...

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Looking Great!

Post by Kelly Thorson »

The clouds look terrific Tony! Did you have any trouble with knowing how they would look from a distance? As in did you need to adjust contrast or did you hit it right from the start?
I wish I could be there to help - or at least watch, particularily as the weather is about to turn cold here. :)
Thanks for taking the time to share your progress especially the documentation of time. That kind of detail is invaluable to walldogs!
I look forward to seeing the step by step in a mag....which one is going to be the lucky one?
I believe there is no shame in failure. Rather, the shame lies in the loss of all the things that might have been, but for the fear of failure.
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Post by Duncan Wilkie »

That's some fine work your doing there Tony! I sure appreciate the day by day photos too. Good walldog!
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Post by Bill Masters »

Nice job Dodger.
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once you paint 26' of ornamentation, its easy to make it 40'

Post by Tony Segale »

thanks for all the comments...

went out 9:30am to 1pm...
Finished the last fourteen feet of headr and ornaments in 3.5 hours, faster, @ 4 feet per hour.
Fog was high today with light winds, about 50 degrees.
Finished the header. Was wondering early in the design if this was too much, but...
sometimes a little risk brings big rewards.

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here's a closeup of the detail...
I used two different brushes for the ornaments...
one.. a pointed round imported from Canada, hairs from the elusive canuck and handle made from recycled hockey sticks, a Tim Horton special
(all info courtesy Rodger MacMunn)
the other... a Grandpa Dan signature series wiggly line fitch

I must of been shivering a little, the full picture came out blurry...I'm done outdoors today
I'll reshoot in the am. Stay in a make a few patterns.

The paint, Benjamin Moore Aura line, is fantastic to work with.
Everything has gone on good with one coat, and blends like oils... only smoother.



Aho
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Post by Danny Baronian »

Tony,

Beautiful job!

Purchasing some Benjamin Moore paint a while back, the store was painting some samples with the Aura line. It really does flow well, good to hear it works well for you.

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Post by Larry White »

I knew it'd happen fast once he started.

Too much detail?

Hey, you shouldn't say that!

I saw the satellite weather picture...you guys sure know how to have a big fog bank! Next we'll probably hear of the 90 car pile up on I-5! Shoulda started that mural sooner when ya had the chance!


Well, you keep on as you are, and we'll keep enjoyin' this post!

-AHO!
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Post by Tony Segale »

Another cool day, good day to be indoors making patterns.
I produced nine patterns, pounced and ready for tomorrow.
Because of the size, you can see I snapped a grid on the 4' x 8' paper.

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I want to project the patterns for the two oval shaped side scenes

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here is one quarter of one of those scenes

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after drawing the first oval scene, I moved to the pounce table and added another piece of 4x8 paper underneath, pouncing two patterns of the oval and leaf ornaments,
so I have two of each quarter area, one with no scene inside. I mark the inside boundary, and project only the second scene inside on the second pounced paper.

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expecting sun and 60+ degree weather for the next seven days... only in California.

I apologize to Kelly, you asked:
"The clouds... Did you have any trouble with knowing how they would look from a distance? As in did you need to adjust contrast or did you hit it right from the start?"

Kelly, I was able to hit it the first time. That's only because I painted the watercolour rendering first. Once that was done, I had the art scanned at Kinkos and smaller colour copies made, so I can take up on the wall with me. I also knew my colours and what I used to create the effect. In total, I am using an eleven color palette of the Benjamin Moore paint. In most of my watercolours, I try to use only a three color palette. I knew that would be difficult to mix exterior paints like watercolours, so, I mixed my watercolours to match a BM Aura color, before painting the maquette. I spent a lot of time planning and detailing from the start, and the evidence of that payoff is happening fast on the wall. When the BM paints were used on the wall for the clouds, I moved quickly, letting the color flow past the primer into the gray areas, with not much concern other than the dark and light areas consistent to the maquette. Then, I painted the gold band below, and came back to the clouds for quick simple off-white highlights.

And for the Blake fellas comment "Shoulda started that mural sooner when ya had the chance! "
I ain't much for rushin fine projects!
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Post by Larry White »

What's a maquette?
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Post by Tony Segale »

Virgil...

A maquette (French word for scale model, sometimes referred to by the Italian names plastico or modello) is a small scale model unfinished architectural work or a sculpture. It is used to visualize and test shapes and ideas without incurring the cost and effort of producing a full scale product. It is the analogue of the painter's cartoon, modello, oil sketch or drawn sketch. For commissioned sculptures, especially monumental public sculptures, a maquette may be used to show the client how the finished work will fit in the proposed site. The term may also refer to a prototype for a video game,film, or any other type of media. Modello, unlike the other terms, is also used for sketches for two-dimensional works such as paintings.

Like oil sketches, these works in progress can be at least as much sought after as completed works by highly regarded artists, showing the process of developing an idea. Gian Lorenzo Bernini, a sculptor from the Baroque period, made his bozzetti from wax or baked terracotta to show his patrons how the final piece was intended to look. Eleven of these bozzetti were displayed in an exhibition at the Art Institute of Chicago in 2004.[1] Some museums specialise in collections of maquettes, such as the . dei Bozzetti in Pietrasanta, Italy.

The word "bozzetto" comes from the Italian word that means "sketch". Most often, the term refers to models who posed for sculpture; however, it also refers to painted sketches.
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Post by Tony Segale »

this is where I left off last Tuesday

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After creating the patterns on Wednesday, yesterday I pounced the nine patterns to the wall.
Drawing over the main lines with a sharpie.
Here is a four piece puzzle of one area...

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and after all patterns are applied, I prime fill all the extended areas...
the sharpie lines are visible through the primer

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todays time 6 hours
will add color today


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Post by Larry White »

You're a smart man, Sally. Heck, you're even a legend!

Mind if I finish my coffee...
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Post by Tony Segale »

you surely may.
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Post by Tony Segale »

6 more hours today...
tried to paint four colors in the two 'book ends'...3 in one, 4 in the left...

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no rain in the forecast for at least one more week... lucky skunk!
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Post by vance galliher »

..........thanks for taking the time tony, great work ! i'm really enjoying the ride. I'm curious about the "period" after street ?
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Post by Tony Segale »

Vance...
I'm curious, also.
Sometimes I would stumble across photos of old signs that would end with a period. Why?
Not really sure... to make the point that this was the title of the product or company?
Sometimes, I thought it was used to fill space, center or balance the text.

I found an article from a San Jose newspaper showing a few old signs, some with and some without a period.

http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro ... -0117.html

My thought was to add the period because of the time, 1875, depicted in the center street scene.
It was inspired because I am a little off center, as well.
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Post by Roderick Treece »

Tony,
Thanks for the great step by step.I'm really enjoying it!I really love how you did the clouds.
I took a look at the link you posted about the old signs.The one I think is very interesting is Faber's Cyclery
Corner of Market and South First Streets, San Jose .
Years ago I worked painting bikes for a guy who owned a company that specialized in restoring them.I am almost certain is was Faber's Cyclery that we when up to.It took us about two days to go through piles of bike parts which we in turn load into a big truck and took back to Orange County to turn into restored bikes.I remember on the floor behind the counter was about a foot deep in parts that you had to walk over.When we when out to the back yard there was a mountain of bike frame maybe 15 feet tall.We just couldn't beleve it!
Thanks for the link!

Roderick
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Post by Armando Anguiano »

Tony, first of all before I comment or ask anything, I must say that this mural is a beautiful piece of work. I am thoroughly impressed.

In a private post made to you a little while ago, you suggested to me that I place my questions on the board so that all could benefit. I am doing that here and I appreciate your taking the time to respond to my inquiries if it wouldn't be too much trouble. While I am very interested in everything in this thread, I am still a Newbie per se of what it is you have accomplished. I hope my questions are not too much that of a novice although that is exactly what I am. You write several statements about “pounce.” Can you explain that to me? For example, you write:

Another cool day, good day to be indoors making patterns.
I produced nine patterns, pounced and ready for tomorrow.
Because of the size, you can see I snapped a grid on the 4' x 8' paper.

Question: What do you mean by “pounced”? (I told you I was a beginner.)

You write:

after drawing the first oval scene, I moved to the pounce table and added another piece of 4x8 paper underneath, pouncing two patterns of the oval and leaf ornaments,
so I have two of each quarter area, one with no scene inside. I mark the inside boundary, and project only the second scene inside on the second pounced paper.

Question: What is a “pounce table” and what do you do there? I’m not sure I understand what you mean when you wrote: “and added another piece of 4x8 paper underneath, pouncing two patters of the oval and leaf ornaments.” Would you be so kind as to explain a bit more for me?

You write:

After creating the patterns on Wednesday, yesterday I pounced the nine patterns to the wall.
Drawing over the main lines with a sharpie.
Here is a four piece puzzle of one area...

Question: Can you explain the above a bit more about pouncing to the wall?

No doubt my questions are pretty basic and seem to relate entirely to “pounce”, but I would appreciate any understanding you can care to give me as to how that works. Thank you very much.

--Armando
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